Как записать дискету для yamaha qy300

Миди-файлы и советы уличным музыкантам

Эти миди-файлы копились и отбирались несколько лет, они очень помогли мне на пути становления ресторанного музыканта. Я думаю, любой начинающий талантливый (с хорошим мелодическим слухом) музыкант может начать зарабатывать в любимом деле по простой испытанной схеме:

1. Записать на кассеты или компакт-диски кучу минусовок (как раз из миди-файлов можно делать минусовки даже на недорогом компьютере с музыкальной картой, или на синтезаторе). Альтернатива — сейчас хорошие минусовки распространяются дёшево сотнями особенно среди тех кабацких музыкантов, которые до сих пор не оценили важность перехода на полностью живую музыку (из-за этого многие на сцене звучат до тошноты одинаково. поют по-разному, но так как сами не играют или играют мало — то почти все звучат одинаково, за исключением гениальных вокалистов. Я себя таковым не считаю, и меня выручает живое исполнение на инструментах. Надо как-то выделяться из всех!)

2. Выбрать для заработков ближайший крупный город. Начать ездить туда в тёплое время с 50-долларовым магнитофоном, аккумулятором и инструментом (у меня до сих пор в работе десятидолларовая блок-флейта Yamaha) — И ПРЯМО НА УЛИЦЕ ВЫСТУПАТЬ в местах, где много людей. Главное — приятно удивлять.

3. Поверьте 5-летнему опыту бывшего уличного музыканта: ЗА ВРЕМЯ УЛИЧНЫХ КОНЦЕРТОВ ВЫ МОЖЕТЕ НАБРАТЬ И ОБКАТАТЬ РЕПЕРТУАР. Благодаря репертуару и ТАЛАНТУ будет гораздо легче попасть в ряды ресторанных музыкантов и зарабатывать деньги уже в теплых помещениях И ДАЖЕ СНИМАТЬ КВАРТИРУ В ЭТОМ КРУПНОМ ГОРОДЕ. Когда у вас есть что предложить людям — НА ВАШИ УСЛУГИ НАЧИНАЕТ РАСТИ ОБЩЕСТВЕННЫЙ СПРОС. И тогда вы начинаете с каждым годом плавно повышать цены за каждый час выступления.

ИТАК, ТЕПЕРЬ ЭТИ МИДИ-ФАЙЛЫ (формат ZIP ):

(их надо «расчёсывать» — менять звуки в случае необходимости, менять уровни громкости, реверберации и т.п., пока они не зазвучат ДОСТОЙНО).

4. Отобранные МИДИ-файлы (около 430), которые мучительно выбирались из нескольких тысяч.

6 . Для инструментов Yamaha QS-300 (синтезатор) или QY-300 (секвенсер) — ЕСТЬ ИНТЕРЕСНЫЕ ЗАБИВКИ (в т.ч. и моего изготовления), но также есть и невысокого качества. ЭТО НЕ МИДИ-ФАЙЛЫ. Это специальные файлы стилей и песен.

Самое лучшее для работающего ресторанного музыканта — сколотить хороший коллектив и играть интересную музыку полностью вживую. Такая программа и такой коллектив позволяет переползти в более высокую ценовую категорию. Важно, чтобы музыканты были талантливы, но не менее важно, чтобы вам всем было комфортно и уютно вместе работать. Я очень счастлив от своего коллектива (повезло).

Старайтесь даже в ресторанной работе пользоваться хорошими дорогими шнурами, хорошим инструментом, хорошим ревербератором, хорошим пультом, хорошим микрофоном. Лучше иметь один хороший микрофон, чем плохой микрофон + грязно звучащий пульт + мутный невнятный грохочущий ревербератор. Согласен, что тяжела и неказиста жизнь российского артиста. Но когда ваша новая гитара зазвучит на 800 долларов, то ощущение счастья не покидает вас долгие месяцы и даже годы.

Будьте осторожны, когда вас приглашают за деньги играть музыку в неизвестное место неизвестные люди. Если есть возможность сообщить своим домашним номер автомобиля и номера телефонов заказчиков, то возможно эти заказчики обойдутся с вами по-честному (как правило мошенники делают всё для того, чтобы их нельзя было потом найти)

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Hey all.
I’ve got an old Yamaha QY300 sequencer.It is a great machine and i still want to use it.
The problem is that it won’t read floppy disks anymore.
I have tried putting in a new FDD but the same errors and messages come up with the new one as the old one, so I don’t think it is the drive.
The messages are «illegal format» or «bad disk»
Surely all my floppies cannot be bad.
Even with the new drive if I format a disk then save a song to it, I can see it on the disk, but it will not let me load it back on (same messages as above).
Also when a disk is inserted, the drive does not seem to automatically try to read it like it should.
Has anyone out there had the same problem with their Yamaha gear and found a solution.
I have hundreds of hours work stored on floppies that i can no longer retrieve.
Any help or ideas greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Tony.

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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Clyde » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:48 pm

What type of replacement drive did you install? If it was a drive like the original, the drives Yamaha used are notorius for being overly sensitive to proper and correct belt tension and will give you all sorts of issues if the belt tension is not correct. If you replaced with a gear driven drive, then that should not be an issue, then I’d be looking at the floppy controller as the origin of your issues.
Clyde

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zoopdog Posts: 8 Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:06 am 11

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by zoopdog » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:53 am

Hi Clyde.
Thanks for your response.
The FDD I got was not a genuine Yamaha drive(as parts from Yamaha for the old models are no longer available)
I got it off ebay at a site that seems to have drives for all sorts of machines, Yamaha,Ensonic etc.
It is a TeacFD-235HG P/N 193077C6-35 if that means anything to you.
It pretty much fitted straight in with no hassles and the ribbon cable connections seemed all the same.
I have pulled it out and taken it’s cover off and it is definitely NOT a belt drive, the motor and drive seem to be one unit.
So it sounds like it could be the floppy controller as you say.
The only trouble is, I have no idea what that is, or where it is, is it serviceable .

I have had a computer repair guy suggest maybe the ribbon cable may be damaged, but I can see no physical problem with it and when the original problem with the old drive occurred, the ribbon cable had not ever been disturbed.

I appreciate your input and any ideas you have
Cheers
Tony.

PS
I guess the alternative to repairing the QY300 is to load them onto a computer with a FDD, find software somewhere that can convert my saved songs (which are in the QY300 original sequence format) to SMF then I maybe I could transfer them back and forth in real time with the QY300 through a USB to midi interface so I can edit them etc.
If any one knows how I might be able to do this that would also be a great help.Thanks a million.

Clyde Global Moderator
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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Clyde » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:31 pm

Sonus wrote: Probably compatibility issues between QY300 2DD format and Teac 2HD disk drive.
The question is not if the Teac has a belt drive but if the QY300 drive has one .

QY300 supports SMF and ESEQ
SY77 loads ESEQ and saves SMF
SMF can be transmitted to QY300

It can be tested if also the song format is exchangeable.
If you can’t repair the old drive, upload some QY300 files.

And you are quite correct! I’m just so used to dealing with the old belt driven drives that Yamaha used in so many units. I’m glad to see that you are able to offer some suggestions and possible work arounds, that’s what makes these forums so great.
Clyde

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zoopdog Posts: 8 Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:06 am 11

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by zoopdog » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:40 pm

Hi Guys.
Yes the original drive has a belt.
It seemed to be driving ok before, when the loading problems etc started but looks to be slipping now.
As i said before, the new FDD seems like it drives ok, but the unit still can’t read the disks, even ones i have formatted with the new FDD.
Looks like this is not an uncommon fault, as I have just done a search on line and there are others who have had the same issues, even when the FDD was replaced with a genuine Yamaha dive the loading/reading problem was not fixed. I could not find any rectified the problem.

The reason why i asked if converting the songs i have saved to FD’s can be converted to SMF is that they don’t appear to be in a recognizable format when put onto a computer.
I know if you load a SMF onto the QY300 then save it again in the units own format there is a big difference in size etc.
I cannot change them back to SMF on the Qy300 because I can’t upload them off the disks of course.
«A bit of a catch 22»
Once again appreciate your input.
Cheers
Tony

zoopdog Posts: 8 Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:06 am 11

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by zoopdog » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:40 am

HI all
Me again.
I have been through a lot of your past forums on similar topics.
I did periodically clean the heads with isopropal alcohol and a proper FDD cleaning disk but this obviously did not save the day.
The belt is stuffed on the original FDD.
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement belt for the MATSUSHITA EME-213YV that originally came with my Qy300. A new one has got to be worth a try as I’m grasping at straws here.

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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Clyde » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:09 pm

I think that’s the same drive used in the SY85 and W7, so a belt for those should fit your drive.
Clyde

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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Miks » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:21 pm

Is there a way to measure the diameter of the old belt? if yes, the new one should be just a little bit smaller if suspecting the old one to be worn out. Many of those who offer that belts are showing the belt’s sizes on their websites so you can check them against the old belt.

My (key related) gear (in alphabetical order) :
Ferrofish: B 4000 +
Kawai: K1 II
Korg: M1 (up’d to EX, w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), M1REX (w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), Poly-800
Roland: D-50, D-110, D-550, PG-1000
Yamaha: AW1600, DX7IID (w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), EX5R, RM50, RX5, SY99 (w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), TG500, TX-802, YMM2
Sector101: SYEMB05 (5x), SYEMB06 (3x), EXFLM2 (1kit), MCD Sweet16 (1x), DataBlade32 (1x), WaveBlade 8MB Card (1x) & 1x Programmer Unit for WaveBlade

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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by zoopdog » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:30 pm

Thanks guys
Will get one and try.
Tony
Orthos Posts: 4 Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:37 pm 10

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Orthos » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:10 pm

zoopdog wrote: Thanks guys
Will get one and try.
Tony

Have you had any joy mate? I ordered a new belt for my dads qy300 and I’ll be fitting it on Sunday. Wish me luck

zoopdog Posts: 8 Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:06 am 11

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by zoopdog » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:24 pm

Thanks Mate.
Yes good luck alright.
I have got side tracked and have not ordered a new belt yet.
Did he have the same problem of not reading the disks too
Will be really keen to know if the new belt solves the problem. Please let me know the outcome.
Cheers Tony

Orthos Posts: 4 Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:37 pm 10

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Orthos » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:28 pm

I have fitted the belt today and guess what? . it’s still got the same old problem, it just keeps saying «no disc»

This problem is really doing my head in now, nothing ever seems to make it work. I ordered a replacement drive from a guy on Ebay, who is in America, and when I installed that it still keeps saying «illegal format»

I am at a complete loss now, I may even start scouring Ebay for a new (to me) QY300. It’s my dads machine and he is 75, so he’s a bit long in the tooth to learn to use a new machine. I even bought him a QY700 and he just can’t get on with it.

I may just take the QY300 into the shed and introduce it to my friend, Mr Hammer

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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by Miks » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:37 pm

Orthos wrote
I may just take the QY300 into the shed and introduce it to my friend, Mr Hammer
Wuuuuhhaaaaahhhaaaaaa.

My (key related) gear (in alphabetical order) :
Ferrofish: B 4000 +
Kawai: K1 II
Korg: M1 (up’d to EX, w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), M1REX (w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), Poly-800
Roland: D-50, D-110, D-550, PG-1000
Yamaha: AW1600, DX7IID (w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), EX5R, RM50, RX5, SY99 (w/ ‘Cool Blue’ ), TG500, TX-802, YMM2
Sector101: SYEMB05 (5x), SYEMB06 (3x), EXFLM2 (1kit), MCD Sweet16 (1x), DataBlade32 (1x), WaveBlade 8MB Card (1x) & 1x Programmer Unit for WaveBlade

zoopdog Posts: 8 Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:06 am 11

Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by zoopdog » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:01 am

Hey Orthos
Well that sux.
Thanks for letting me know.
I have tried contacting Yamaha service directly but they have no idea(as much use as tits on a bull) that’s why I thought I’d join this site.Hoping if a bunch of us put our heads together a solution may be found.
I have got a new (after market)drive in mine and it won’t even read new discs that I have formatted with it, so there must be a fault in the machine itself maybe the floppy controller(as was mentioned earlier) but as far as I can see, that must be an IC so can’t see how it can be serviced.It must also be a common fault as I have seen a number of people trying to solve this on line.
I have experimented and found if I use a midi to usb adapter cable i can transfer songs back and forward in real time record with Cubase on my laptop.
Maybe this might help your dad a bit.
This is a way to save new stuff but no good for gigging with and definitely no way to retrieve old songs saved on disc.
I was fortunate enough to put 90% of my stuff on mini disc when the machine first started to become a bit dodgy so at least I still have them that I can use and gig with, just can’t edit them of course.
I’m like your old man, too long in the tooth to change my ways.
Besides I have never heard any backing tracks on any other machine that can produce as good a live sound as the QY300, have often had people come into a venue from outside where I’m playing, saying they thought there was a live band playing. So I’m also really keen to try and fix this. Will keep you posted if I find a miracle solution and of course will appreciate any input you or any one else may come up with.
Am gigging flat out at the mo so if I don’t get back before hand, hope all have a good Christmas and rockin new years eve.
Cheers
Tony

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Re: Help. QY300 disk loading problems

Unread post by johann-j » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:08 pm

Dear Sirs
I have two QY300 Yamaha sequencers both seem to have floppy drive problems, everything else works fine.
The connection is ribbon type not multi pin is there anything i can purchase to replace these as i found them to be the best ever, and cannot understand Yamaha not some support for these units.
Could it be that they just need new drive belts and if so it is hard to change them or is there someone who can repair these drives?
I live in Western Australia my name is John Laccohee-Joslin. Any help will be gratefully welcome
John Laccohee-joslin

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My personal opinion

I use this device for ten years. I am a MODEL pass the other, staying in that range. I like the ease of use and fast that it offers.

Today, I do not use more of scne for purely artistic reasons, since I dsormais training five musicians with whom we want to play live as much as possible. A rock formation in which squence mlangent do wrong. Nevertheless, I still use my QY700 (the same as the QY300 but with 32 tracks instead of 16) to dial. IDAL is for Fast Fashion! It allows, trs quickly, ask one ide and one Premire debauchery of a song. It's perfect for working a single directory, in addition rptitions group. And if you're training without a drummer, IDAL is to «replace» a battery or scne rptitions, trs and really handy. It does not feel restrained by a squence. One can, with this tool, scne improvise, to the extent it has prpar these patterns. It remains that the start when you want, with a switch pedals, for example.

Finally, before turning into a rock band I played in piano bars, alone with my squence, a MIDI keyboard and a microphone for voice. It is very easy, and for reasonable prices, squence (soundtracks prprogrammes) classics of French song, English standards of rock, etc . This allows you to mount a directory of trs times faster, and able to constantly renew to play piano bar. Scne alone, with the hardware really easy to transport . It quickly gained a living making music! What appears normally difficult .

Finally, the last little longer . The QY300 can run batteries (without be a factory . It uses little gas.). And personally, I take a lot on the train, which becomes enjoyable with this unit trs. The QY300 on his knees, headphones walk-man branch above the ears, and go! PERFECT! ! ! . . .

Conclusions: This device does not age. It is so convenient that all levels do not get tired. Especially considering what it costs! This means half of the equivalent among competitors. You'll understand. I highly recommend this unit, my taste just perfect. So yes, if c'tait again, I would reiterate this unit. This is what I actually done by passing the QY700 .